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		<title>By: Doctor Jekyll</title>
		<link>http://pintday.org/archive/20060117/comment-page-1#comment-594</link>
		<dc:creator>Doctor Jekyll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2006 06:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Found at &lt;a href=&quot;//http://therecord.com/fed_election2006/fed_election2006_06011282526.html&quot;&gt;therecord.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;In February 2002, Canada&#039;s chief electoral officer Jean-Pierre Kingsley gave Parliament a list of recommended changes to the way federal elections are run. Among them was a suggestion to give Canadians some form of a &quot;none-of-the-above&quot; option on ballots, to allow for protest votes.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Found at <a href="//http://therecord.com/fed_election2006/fed_election2006_06011282526.html">therecord.com</a></p>
<p>&#8220;In February 2002, Canada&#8217;s chief electoral officer Jean-Pierre Kingsley gave Parliament a list of recommended changes to the way federal elections are run. Among them was a suggestion to give Canadians some form of a &#8220;none-of-the-above&#8221; option on ballots, to allow for protest votes.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Doctor Jekyll</title>
		<link>http://pintday.org/archive/20060117/comment-page-1#comment-593</link>
		<dc:creator>Doctor Jekyll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2006 06:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think &quot;none of these assholes&quot; is going to show up on my ballot.   :(&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The spoiled ballot stats are available.  I don&#039;t know why the media does not report them.  Only 0.3% of ballots cast in Alberta were rejected during the last election.  http://www.elections.ca/scripts/OVR2004/23/table3.html&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think &#8220;none of these assholes&#8221; is going to show up on my ballot.   :(</p>
<p>The spoiled ballot stats are available.  I don&#8217;t know why the media does not report them.  Only 0.3% of ballots cast in Alberta were rejected during the last election.  <a href="http://www.elections.ca/scripts/OVR2004/23/table3.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.elections.ca/scripts/OVR2004/23/table3.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Evan</title>
		<link>http://pintday.org/archive/20060117/comment-page-1#comment-592</link>
		<dc:creator>Evan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2006 21:02:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The American revolution started in the Green Dragon tavern, Boston.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The American revolution started in the Green Dragon tavern, Boston.</p>
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		<title>By: HH</title>
		<link>http://pintday.org/archive/20060117/comment-page-1#comment-589</link>
		<dc:creator>HH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:01:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ok, you don&#039;t have to vote. I commend your political stance. I just can&#039;t see how glugging booze is effective revolutionary activity.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, you don&#8217;t have to vote. I commend your political stance. I just can&#8217;t see how glugging booze is effective revolutionary activity.</p>
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		<title>By: Evan</title>
		<link>http://pintday.org/archive/20060117/comment-page-1#comment-587</link>
		<dc:creator>Evan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2006 15:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Reasons why I have to vote:&lt;/p&gt;

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&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;&quot;Because then I can&#039;t complain.&quot; So if I cast a ballot supporting expanded government, then I &lt;em&gt;am&lt;/em&gt; allowed to complain when I get what I voted for?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;&quot;Because other countries are run by thugs, and their citizens can&#039;t vote.&quot; So I should elect a thug in &lt;em&gt;my&lt;/em&gt; country?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;&quot;It&#039;s my civic duty.&quot; To support someone who has the opposite of my opinion?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reasons why I have to vote:</p>
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<p>&#8220;Because then I can&#8217;t complain.&#8221; So if I cast a ballot supporting expanded government, then I <em>am</em> allowed to complain when I get what I voted for?</p>
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<p>&#8220;Because other countries are run by thugs, and their citizens can&#8217;t vote.&#8221; So I should elect a thug in <em>my</em> country?</p>
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<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s my civic duty.&#8221; To support someone who has the opposite of my opinion?</p>
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		<title>By: kj</title>
		<link>http://pintday.org/archive/20060117/comment-page-1#comment-586</link>
		<dc:creator>kj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2006 23:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m not going to defend the Conservatives on this one (why not just NOT TAKE IT from me in the first place?), but it&#039;s nice to see &lt;em&gt;someone&lt;/em&gt; suggesting that a parent staying home with the kids is perhaps a better idea than child care. Other than &lt;a href=&quot;http://drwooding.com&quot;&gt;him&lt;/a&gt;, of course.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not going to defend the Conservatives on this one (why not just NOT TAKE IT from me in the first place?), but it&#8217;s nice to see <em>someone</em> suggesting that a parent staying home with the kids is perhaps a better idea than child care. Other than <a href="http://drwooding.com">him</a>, of course.</p>
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		<title>By: me</title>
		<link>http://pintday.org/archive/20060117/comment-page-1#comment-585</link>
		<dc:creator>me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2006 22:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I don&#039;t have the stomach for the big picture today so let me bitch about the little one.  The Conservatives&#039; childcare program?  $1200/year.  $23/week.   And they have the gall to say it will help a parent make the choice to stay home instead of working.  Reminds me of my grandma who consistently gave my mother Â£5 for Christmas, from 1950 to 2000, and assumed it was worth about the same.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have the stomach for the big picture today so let me bitch about the little one.  The Conservatives&#8217; childcare program?  $1200/year.  $23/week.   And they have the gall to say it will help a parent make the choice to stay home instead of working.  Reminds me of my grandma who consistently gave my mother Â£5 for Christmas, from 1950 to 2000, and assumed it was worth about the same.</p>
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		<title>By: HH</title>
		<link>http://pintday.org/archive/20060117/comment-page-1#comment-583</link>
		<dc:creator>HH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2006 20:43:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Considering the multitudes that have chained themselves to fences, been put in prison, or shot in their fight for the right to vote around the world it&#039;s only proper that we Canadians cast our ballot when we can.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I do agree; our lumbering government is growing cancerously and must be reduced. At best our government is career civil servants (who are often neither civil nor servile) bound and gagged by an impenetrable net of rules and regulations.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I recommend voting for the local independent or green party or whatever. At the least we might have a minority government, which is better than a full red or blue or orange (shudder)house.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I also recommend yelling at the dolts we vote in until they do as we voters ask. Perhaps MPs just need a little direction. Perhaps they need to be reminded of their civil servant status.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Then head down to the local pub for a pint. I&#039;ll join you.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Considering the multitudes that have chained themselves to fences, been put in prison, or shot in their fight for the right to vote around the world it&#8217;s only proper that we Canadians cast our ballot when we can.</p>
<p>I do agree; our lumbering government is growing cancerously and must be reduced. At best our government is career civil servants (who are often neither civil nor servile) bound and gagged by an impenetrable net of rules and regulations.</p>
<p>I recommend voting for the local independent or green party or whatever. At the least we might have a minority government, which is better than a full red or blue or orange (shudder)house.</p>
<p>I also recommend yelling at the dolts we vote in until they do as we voters ask. Perhaps MPs just need a little direction. Perhaps they need to be reminded of their civil servant status.</p>
<p>Then head down to the local pub for a pint. I&#8217;ll join you.</p>
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		<title>By: coco</title>
		<link>http://pintday.org/archive/20060117/comment-page-1#comment-582</link>
		<dc:creator>coco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2006 18:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I agree with the sentiment that there is no political party to vote for in this election (for different reasons than the ones listed above). This has been the hardest decision of who to vote for. No political party has an agenda that reflects my beliefs.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Choosing not to vote is your perogative. But having as the alternative going for a beer? How does this change anything? What does that accomplish? Who is going to care that you didn&#039;t vote? Who will know and understand why you didn&#039;t vote?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The reason we don&#039;t have political parties that reflect our political beliefs is because we don&#039;t do anything to shape these beliefs.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If you chose not to vote you better do something to try and create a political party that better reflects your beliefs. Because otherwise next election, you&#039;re going to be complaining again and not understanding why things haven&#039;t changed.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So instead of just saying do something I will provide you wit some suggestions:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;1) Write a letter to every political party that you would have considered voting for and explain why you chose not to vote. List the examples above. Challenge them to have policies that reflect your beliefs.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;2) Arrange a meeting with candidates in your riding to discuss your concerns.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;3) Go to political forums (like the one I attended last night) to ask candidates why their parties aren&#039;t reflecting beliefs that you can vote for.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;4) Write letters to the editor to national and local papers outlining why you are a non-voter. Papers would love to have well written pieces about why young (ish) voters aren&#039;t voting.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;5) Join a political party. Then attend meetings, go to conferences and try to make changes from the inside.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;6) If 5) doesn&#039;t work for you, form your own party (just like fed up lefties did with the Canadian Action Party).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;7) Be an active citizen away from election time and write letters to your MPs voicing your concerns. Get your friends to write to and see if you can make a difference.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;8) Do anything other than not just voting.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;To be clear, I don&#039;t have a problem with you not voting unless that is all you do. Because if you don&#039;t vote and then just sit on your ass and complain you aren&#039;t any better than those dinks you don&#039;t want to embiggen.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the sentiment that there is no political party to vote for in this election (for different reasons than the ones listed above). This has been the hardest decision of who to vote for. No political party has an agenda that reflects my beliefs.</p>
<p>Choosing not to vote is your perogative. But having as the alternative going for a beer? How does this change anything? What does that accomplish? Who is going to care that you didn&#8217;t vote? Who will know and understand why you didn&#8217;t vote?</p>
<p>The reason we don&#8217;t have political parties that reflect our political beliefs is because we don&#8217;t do anything to shape these beliefs.</p>
<p>If you chose not to vote you better do something to try and create a political party that better reflects your beliefs. Because otherwise next election, you&#8217;re going to be complaining again and not understanding why things haven&#8217;t changed.</p>
<p>So instead of just saying do something I will provide you wit some suggestions:</p>
<p>1) Write a letter to every political party that you would have considered voting for and explain why you chose not to vote. List the examples above. Challenge them to have policies that reflect your beliefs.</p>
<p>2) Arrange a meeting with candidates in your riding to discuss your concerns.</p>
<p>3) Go to political forums (like the one I attended last night) to ask candidates why their parties aren&#8217;t reflecting beliefs that you can vote for.</p>
<p>4) Write letters to the editor to national and local papers outlining why you are a non-voter. Papers would love to have well written pieces about why young (ish) voters aren&#8217;t voting.</p>
<p>5) Join a political party. Then attend meetings, go to conferences and try to make changes from the inside.</p>
<p>6) If 5) doesn&#8217;t work for you, form your own party (just like fed up lefties did with the Canadian Action Party).</p>
<p>7) Be an active citizen away from election time and write letters to your MPs voicing your concerns. Get your friends to write to and see if you can make a difference.</p>
<p>8) Do anything other than not just voting.</p>
<p>To be clear, I don&#8217;t have a problem with you not voting unless that is all you do. Because if you don&#8217;t vote and then just sit on your ass and complain you aren&#8217;t any better than those dinks you don&#8217;t want to embiggen.</p>
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		<title>By: Bighair</title>
		<link>http://pintday.org/archive/20060117/comment-page-1#comment-581</link>
		<dc:creator>Bighair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2006 00:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;A monday beer seems like a fine idea. No waiting in lines, no tough decisions, just walk in, sit down and get the usual. Works for me!&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A monday beer seems like a fine idea. No waiting in lines, no tough decisions, just walk in, sit down and get the usual. Works for me!</p>
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		<title>By: Gord Webster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gord Webster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:46:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I still want a &quot;none of these assholes&quot; box on the ballot...&lt;/p&gt;
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